THE BRIDGE | Kylian Mbappé, Achraf Hakimi & Malik Bentalha (English, Spanish & Arabic subtitles)

And yes, we are back. Welcome to this new season of The Bridge. There are new faces, come on, I will introduce them to you. Sandy, how are you?

Very well, and you, Aurél?

Quiet, it's okay. Are you ready?

You gave me another minute to talk to you.

Not more, huh?

One minute!

Don't worry, not more. See you later. Donald Jackman, be careful, it's going to be long. I'm gonna do a little snipe on this fan Oh my god, don't start with the jokes I'll come back to you later And here we are, the set of the day The Bridge, as usual Get ready, it's gonna be crazy

If my dad had watched my contracts I would have hit some old asses My dad never watched my contracts, he doesn't care

My dad doesn't care

I'm a side-winger. I'm in the corridors.

I cracked a fumigene. I cracked a fumigene and I didn't think it was forbidden.

No matter what I did or didn't do, I'm terrified that there's someone better than me.

Better.

Never say never.

If you didn't have to play for the French team,

would you choose Cameroon or Algeria?

Hello everyone and welcome to The Bridge, season 3, episode 1. Welcome Kylian, welcome Ashraf, welcome Malik, and my friends for this great season. Thank you for making me part of this great family. In The Bridge, we like to make bridges between our guests. And between the three of you, I admit it was quite simple

because we know you have a very, very good friendship. We'll come back to that. So it promises a great show, and great show means great gifts. You'll see, at your feet, there are gifts. If you want to lean over and take them...

There are three gifts, and the first one, which we're going to give to Ashraf, because we're happy.

Here you go.

There you go.

Bravo!

We don't know if you'll keep it for a long time. I'm keeping it for a long time. I'll keep it for the moment. You'll keep it. When the episode comes out, you'll get it back. But you can keep it.

I'll keep it for the moment.

Congratulations.

A little word on that. Are you happy?

We're very happy. I've been waiting for this moment for a long time. If we win like this, we'll win. There's another little gift for you, tell us what you think.

You can open it.

It goes with the cup.

It goes with the cup.

A little napkin.

You're sweating, aren't you?

Does it bring back good memories? Yeah, yeah. It's not good memories, but... We laughed a lot in front of our TV, honestly.

My turn?

Go ahead.

Just before we start, so it's the troubadours on one side, and the athletes on the other, right? It's the high level. Okay, there's a sofa that pays more than 1%. There's a sofa that... Come on, let's go.

It's liquid money.

Smoking, you bastard.

Tell us, Malik, we want to know. Tell us, Malik.

It's funny because it was PSG Real. It was in 2019 and Paris won 3-0. I don't think it happened, I'm telling you.

It was a face-off.

You were there.

Yeah, I was there, but I didn't play.

I was in a stand. 3-0, what a match! 3-0, Dimaria scored. And Meunier. And Meunier, exactly. And it was Zizou, the coach. And I cracked a smoke screen. I cracked a smoke screen and I didn't think it was forbidden.

But where were you?

And it's true, in Spain, there's no such thing.

I was in the presidential office. and the next day the police came to my house. Directly? Yeah, I didn't know it was me. You weren't searched? I mean, at my house?

No, at the stadium.

Oh, I thought they searched my house. No, at the stadium? No, no, no. But actually, someone from the stadium gave it to me. I was like a kid, I opened the thing, I cracked it, fumigant, I didn't know. And they had a video of me in 4K. I was in a concert. Yeah! I was like, yeah, that's me.

Stadium ban, then.

Yeah, stadium ban. How long? Six months. 1500 euros fine. So I'm not hiding that I'm a bit broke financially, especially at this time.

So it's true that it wasn't easy. And then, no, six months without going to the stadium.

Hard!

Without seeing them. I'll open the last gift. We chose it specifically for the news.

Is it to go to the Lambo?

I've had a lot of problems since I got my license.

Oh, Kylian, you did everything. A license, a girl, you sent everything straight away.

In fact, you have the car first and then you have the girl.

He started in the opposite direction. Get an apartment, Kylian, let's go.

I skipped the apartment step.

Tell us how it happened. How did Kylian Mbappé get his license? He got it, we were surprised. He paid for it.

Because he paid.

I already wanted to get it in Paris, but it was more complicated. And when I arrived in Madrid, we found a way for me to pass it anonymously.

Okay.

Anonymously.

Did you have a hood? No, but when I arrived, there was a kind of private party.

And for the record, it was a supporter of Atletico who passed it with me. He still gave it to you. Huh?

He still gave it to you.

When you drive well, I'm doing things well. We saw the images with the mini-cutter and everything. When it films you, you're a little stressed when you unwind.

No, no, no.

You saw when she let it pass, there was a person who said,

no, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

I need time.

Hands at 10.10, it's all set.

I park the day before and were always a lot of people I didn't want to go to the hotel, I wanted to go home But when I came with the Real's delegation, they told me No, no, you're not going home, you came to work You're going to meet all the Real's people But every day I left the hotel, there were a thousand people

And there was a guy who parked in front wanted to get out of the car. That's crazy. His first day, he was so bad. I had a cap on, so you couldn't see my emotions.

Do you see what's going on on social media?

No, no, no.

We send them.

You send them?

Yes.

If you don't see them, we'll send them.

His video is funny. He's like, get in the it's good, it's cool. Honestly, I'm happy.

Because I revised, I did it well, it was cool.

Did you do the driving with the other driver before? No. You didn't do it, because there was that before, remember?

No, no, no.

But the driving with the other driver is 10 years old.

Yeah, that's true.

Anyway, good. Do you know where in Madrid to put it? The A? It's an L in Madrid.

And so, do you put the L? Yeah, I think so.

Be careful, you're going to get denounced.

No, no, no, I put it.

At Schraff, you take the picture, he doesn't have the L.

You denounce him.

He's going to send it to him.

He's going to be the first want to meet with him. We talked about friendship at the beginning of the show, you have extraordinary friendships. I would like to know how you met, how you became very good friends.

Who do I start with? Malik? I knew Malik before. Malik is your friend?

Yeah.

Oh yeah, it's starting. We're going to talk about the pants, we'll come back to that.

As you want.

Malik first, you met Malik before? I knew Malik before. We met in Paris when I arrived in Paris. I was 18 years old. I met Malik. I knew him because I liked his sketches at first. He was someone who made me laugh.

He liked PSG so we met at the stadium.

We were talking, I think you were in Monaco.

Yeah, we were already talking in Monaco. I liked his sketches so I was watching his skits. When I arrived in Paris, we met several times in the park. And he's a PSG player. So we developed a friendship like that.

You went to see him in a show and he came to see you play.

Nice. How long has it been?

41 years. No, it's been...

2016?

17, something like that.

10 years.

That's why you celebrated the fridge.

Yeah, that's right. But that's when you see the impact.

We were disappointed. We were like, oh, he's Konembappe, the bastard.

We asked for press release to make it comical, to get things back on track. He just reached out his arms like that. CNN, Al Jazeera, forget it. It went in all directions.

It was before the match.

I was watching his stuff and said, I'm going to do it. He said, go ahead, do it. That's how it's done. Anyway, before the games, I always, when I have friends, they have stuff, I always celebrate with my friends, I always give them a nod.

It's true.

And I saw that when you score goals, sometimes you make signs like that,

there's a legend who says you tell the cameraman to film you.

Is that true or is it a myth? I don't even know why I started doing this. But I always... You mark, you do this, you do that. I started doing this.

The thing like that. As soon as he marks, he does this, he does that.

I started doing this when... Sometimes he does that. The first time I did that was in Paris. Because I was working with Pochettino, you know, closed. And so it was with the staff, you know. And people reallyces it. Open book. You know, when he drives, he puts his hand like this.

No, it's not good, when you see what you did, it's not good. The other one is on the ground, he's in Y.

Last year?

Yeah.

No, but that started last year, because last year we had a game against them, He tackles me and he celebrates. Ah, ok. We didn't know what he was doing.

That's why.

I don't forget the things we did.

I don't forget.

And with Ashraf, how did you become friends?

Oh, at PG.

At PG too? You didn't know each other before?

I knew him as a player. We played against each other, but I didn't know him personally. He arrived in Paris. I sent a message on Instagram, you know, when a new player was welcomed. And then I was coming back from the Euro, it was the Euro 2021. And he had just arrived in Paris, and we got to know each other like that. And for the record, he didn't speak French. But me, you know, we're in France.

For us Moroccans, it speaks French. I've never met a Moroccan in Spain. Before him, I didn't know him. So Potetino told me, yeah, there's Kimi, he's your age, you're going to get along with him, integrate him a little. I said, yeah, I've talked to him a little.

So I go down and I meet him right away. Do you remember at Candela's, the canteen? I meet him right away like that.

I said, yeah, how are you?

I said, welcome, if you need anything, he looked at me like that.

You didn't understand, you were so good. No, I said, thank you, thank you.

I didn't understand anything.

So you took French classes or it was just a little bit of a party? It's true that Paris told me, you have to start learning French. I said, okay. They put me a teacher. I'm not very close to teachers. I spent a lot of time with Kylian and his friends.

It's true that thanks to this friendship and staying together for a long time, we learned French like that.

He taught me Spanish as well.

Spanish is very good now.

Thanks to him too.

He spoke well before. He was a lot of South Americans and he speaks Spanish. It was easier for me. He's my teacher, to be honest. And you, Aurélien, who's your best friend in football? Jules Koundé. We grew up together.

We've played together for a few years. And then we met in the French team.

He's everyone's best friend.

But who's your best friend?

It's Malik.

Of course. That's why they're on this side.

I don't know if Malik was going to give you your name.

No, Malik had another name. Who's your best friend, Malik?

Best friend in humor? I'm good with Jérôme Commander.

DJ Snake.

I like him a lot. How did you meet in the park? Before I arrived in Paris, I think. Yes, I remember. There were negotiations. I said, yeah, I'm sending him because Snake and I are the recruitment directors, the sports directors of PSG. And he came to see you when you were leaving Inter.

Yeah, he came to see me in Morocco.

Yeah, you said, come.

He was in Raval, he came to see me at the training center. Exactly. I think it's a bit of a waste to send him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We go, we say, please come, you're going to see the project. We have a project for three years, you know. Really.

But the friendship you've developed because you were in the same locker room, do you still manage to develop new friendships now?

Yes, that's true.

Well, I guess, no's true. I guess you're right. Sorry, I meant the changing room. Do you make new friends today?

Or is it complicated?

You know, you've been to a lot of changing rooms. It's not easy to find friends who share the same things. The same things behind football. Sometimes you spend a lot of time in the changing room. Sometimes when you go outside, you don't want to see the same things behind football. Sometimes in the changing room, you spend a lot of time, but sometimes when you're outside, you don't want to see the same face you see every day. It's not easy.

There are people whose families, their children... With him, it was easier than the celebrities.

What does that mean?

It's true that we share a lot of things together, a lot of things in common, which makes it easier for me to be more comfortable, more natural, and then...

And friendships that don't explain themselves.

It's just a feeling, especially when you get to talk to each other.

It was like we've known each other for a long time, even though we didn't know each other at all. And so, it just happened naturally. So it's something we didn't force or look for. It's something that just happened to me.

The first days I talked to you, we didn't do anything special.

We played the PlayStation.

You played the console?

Yeah, I don't know, we were crazy.

Yeah, we played the PlayStation. No, we did stuff of our age. Stuff that we could say...

We did TikTok too, for fun. Yeah? We should post that. No, but we have TikTok archives. I think we have 150 TikTok videos.

We're never going to post them.

Choreographies? No, never, never, never. It's a moment to laugh with friends. We show them in WhatsApp groups, friends and everything, but we're never going to post them.

We can't.

Yeah, Lien, we have to hack phones.

We can't. There is, in the blue, what I call the question, who is going to fix it? It's a question that fixes you. There is a question that bothers you. But you choose, there is no trap. No, I... Fix it or bother you.

I'm going to have a hard time, I'm going to go in the bother.

Fix it or bother?

No, the blue, the blue.

You can take the risk. Fix it? We're taking the risk. We're taking the risk. Okay. World Cup final. Morocco, France. Kylian, he beat everyone. He's the only one left. He's going to score.

You're behind. You're thinking, if I tackle him, I can hurt him. Or you're thinking, I'm going to Morocco, there are good doctors in France.

What are you doing?

I tackle him.

You cut him?

Yeah. You cut it? Who, did you hurt it? Yeah, I left it in my gym. That's how it is in football. No, it's normal. Your little brother told you in an interview that you were beating him up.

Yeah, it's normal. Really? No, I'm not kidding. But he's your little brother.

No, he's not my brother.

Have you ever played against him?

We played, but he was injured and I was injured too. Ah yes, that's true. On the pitch, you manage to take away that he's your friend. No, you don't take away that he's your friend, but the desire to win takes over. We played one on one with the club selection. On the pitch, we kept laughing, but I know that if he has to sweep me, he will sweep me. And he knows that if I have to sweep him, I will sweep him. It's like if I told him, don't pass me.

Yeah.

No, but I think it's easier. Because for example, tomorrow, he sweeps me, I know it's not personal. Because I know him, he's my friend, it's easier. It's easier to go impact someone you like, he knows you like him. He knows it's not personal, and at some point it's your job, and you do your job. But on the field you laugh together.

Yeah.

Because for example, you see, Jules, as I said, when you play against Barça,

Jules is a guy, you play against him, he doesn't know you. Yeah, no, Jules is...

Jules is like, you know, there are guys and everything, but he's like, he's so focused, and then it's in his... Yeah, I think the worst game was the semi-final. I think we only talked for an hour and a half.

What are you saying?

We organized our holidays because we had time.

No! No!

I love it!

It's great!

It's so funny!

He was like, who's here? Your family? They all came to play! The game was played there. During the World Cup, we talked together every day. We played together online, on the Play, we played Football Manager together, we called each other every day. And the more we advanced, the more we saw that it was getting closer.

That it was possible to get closer. Yeah, I said, don't tell me that... He said, well, we were moving forward, but at some point we weren't. We were in the semi-finals. But the semi-finals, it was only the day of the semi-finals. It was a bit hard because we kept talking, but you could feel there was a little... Until we met in the tunnel and we started laughing.

But before, there was a little... And he sent me messages like,

you don't want to talk to me today. It's the semi-final, it's not like it's a pool game. I had that in the semi-final of the Garlozer Cup. With my friend Brahim.

Same thing in the World Cup, PSG-Real.

Because Hakimi, with PSG, you beat Real. With Morocco-France, Morocco you beat Cameroon. There are three Cameroonians, everyone hates you.

We all want to catch you. That's why you always Cameroon. There are three Cameroonians. Everyone hates you.

No, but you stay...

But that's the mindset that makes you go from good to champion. You have to be in a mindset, I always want to win.

I think everyone can say that they want to win, but the truth is that not everyone is able to do everything to win. It means that you can be on the field, and the little details, the little things that will make the difference. Everyone can get up and say, I want to win, but what are you capable of doing to win?

That's the biggest difference.

But then there's still the work,

and there's everything else.

There's also the understanding of the mentality. But I think it's more of a problem on both sides, both the public and the players. We, because I think we've come to a point in football

where all the doors are closed, so you have no connection with the players. You don't know what the player thinks. You don't do interviews anymore. I never do interviews, we don't do interviews.

So why, Kylian, don't you do interviews anymore?

Why?

I'm tired. I'm tired.

No, it's true?

No, I'm tired, because sometimes you come to explain, but the truth is that the journalist comes with his questions, and it's not an exchange anymore, it's a relationship of strength. He comes to make you say what you don't want to say, and you don't want to say what he wants to make you say. So I always say that they come with their questions, but I come with my answers. There are things that I can't say when I come. So he comes and he wants me to say them.

So it's like a boxing ring, and there are people who look outside and just look at the moves. He must be crazy, it's when you do the interview and you have a sauce at the end. It depends on the questions.

Do you have a girlfriend, Kylian? No, sorry.

That's why, Kylian, we're talking about questions.

Well, I'm going to take the blue one.

No, I'm going to take the red one.

Arrange, disturb.

Disturb, go, disturb.

That's Kiki we know. If you didn't have to play for the French team, and you had to choose, would you choose Cameroon or Algeria?

Mom or dad?

No, not mom or dad, you know what I mean, my dad, my mom, tell us. Actually, the thing is…

There you go, it's starting. I'll explain it to you.

If you're talking about me, how I grew up, I grew up more with Cameroonian culture than Algerian culture, because I was closer to my Cameroonian family than my Algerian family. But then, as the years went by, I got really close to my Algerian family. And I want to go to Algeria because I've never been there. And that's something I want to do.

Because it's true that everyone thinks I don't care. Yeah, no, it's true, because thinks I don't care. Yeah, no, it's true because I've never been. I've been to Cameroon a lot, because I grew up on that side. Because you saw the controversy in La Canne.

Yeah, I saw it.

You came, you went to see Ashraf in Morocco. The thing is, I went to Rabat just to see Ashraf play. Otherwise, I didn't care about Rabat. I was in Mar match. Incredible. It was a good match to go see. But no, no, no.

So? Yeah, because...

You did a good job as a politician.

The answer.

But in reality... It's okay, we're several to play. I would say that I would? The Cameroon! Inshallah, he'll stop the music. People will be happy.

It's okay, there's Zidane.

No, no, no.

There's a lot.

There's Zidane.

Zidane. No, but really... It would have been crazy if you two, in a multiverse, played for Cameroon.

It would have been incredible. I think people should choose before. In what sense? In the sense that... You start your career?

Yeah, a country is not like a club. Sometimes I hear, yeah, the sports project. No, it's the country with which... It's because I was born in France, I'm French, I did everything in France. I had French culture with origins that are Cameroonian and Algerian, but I grew up with French culture. So for me, there was no point in coming and being an opportunist. I was good, so France took me right away. But I had no point in being an opportunist,

to say I'm waiting for France if there's no... No, it's not like that, actually. You can do it in the club. Even if it's true that with the fans it's less common. But the club is your career. It's you and your choices.

But the country, I think it's what you felt with Morocco. I think he did it right away. Was it Morocco or Spain?

I think it was Kylian. But you played with Spain when you were young, didn't you? I didn't play. You did? I started with Morocco. Then Spain called me and I was in Real Madrid.

Madrid asked me why I didn't train for 2 or 3 days. So I could see what you feel. I went there, I tried and I didn't feel comfortable. I said that I felt comfortable to continue playing for my parents in Morocco. It went well, but when I made that decision, I wasn't in the first team yet. Like Kylian said, you have to take this choice because of who you are. It's not about whether I have the chance to play or not,

if I'm going to lose, if I'm not going to play. No, you have to take it because you feel comfortable, you're not alone, it's a more personal choice than someone coming to you, talking to you, collecting projects for you. Today there is a coach, tomorrow there is a different coach

who will be change our mentality. But there are guys who don't know how to do it for real.

No, but it's also a question of legitimacy. Do you feel legitimate to go? That's it too. You know, when we talk about heart, it's not just the emotions, it's also the lucidity to say, am I legitimate? Because if you go, you take someone's place.

Am I legitimate to take someone's place? If you feel legitimate, I'll go. If I felt legitimate, I feel legitimate with France, I have no problem taking someone's place.

The truth is that there are some,

they wait to see how it goes on one side. Yeah, but it's pretty common with Kylian. And if they feel it's weird, I'll go on the other side.

And in reality, there can play the ball, if he chooses the country, people will say He's a kid, he plays, but go ahead, he's good. You see, but it's... For me, you can do that with the club, because the club, you know, it's you and your career, it's you and your choices, it's cool, it's cool, but the country... I have a little more trouble, but then you respect everyone's choices, you see. If there is a Cameroon. You became my brother for the year. You and me, here we go. Last question for you Malik, same.

Question that suits. Malik has a question that suits, for sure.

I'm in the loop, send the question that suits.

Question that suits.

Malik, have you seen the last series of Frank Gaston Bide?

Send the suit. Send the suit, the one that suits. Can we laugh about everything.

You both agree, right?

We're sometimes asked this question. Stay in your place. You're a footballer, stay in your place. You're a comedian, stay in your place. I don't know what that means. And sometimes we say, you do nothing,

you never speak, you take positions, you live in the Ivory Towers. It's weird because as soon as you speak, you get scolded and when you don't speak... For example, Kylian, you know, the outings you do. When you do them, do you plan that I know that there is a return, I'm going to get scolded and I don't give a damn or you don't even know that you're getting scolded?

No, I'm talking to know it very early. So I was able to make very young mistakes that helped me. And so you learn quickly and you quickly understand the environment, how it works. You know how it works. So in the end, you think a little less sometimes too. Because you know that thinking too much, you lose yourself.

Because even if you think more, it won't satisfy people who don't want to think.

You want to tweet it for Aurel San?

Oh yeah, let's go, let's go. Let's go, let's go. Let's go, you'll understand.

Have you ever said something, or had an interview, or let's say there was a mini-sauce, or something like that,

where you said to yourself, There are things I said and did that you regret, but there are things I regret, but I knew I had to do them. You see, it's things I knew before I went there, what it was going to cause, but I had to do it. Even if you pick it up later, you had to do it. But there are things I did that...

Are you talking about the NFP trophies?

No, that's nonsense.

Do you have an example that comes to mind? The NFP trophy, I think that was...

You know, a 19-year-old kid who is frustrated by a lot of episodes and who didn't externalize his frustration and who takes the wrong place, the wrong moment, the wrong context

and who empties his bag and all the people, they look at me like...

What is he doing?

But do you sometimes get understand when people say that... They sometimes blame you for being a bit formatted, which is normal with your notoriety and all, but can you understand that people say, I don't know, scream, fart, fart, slip...

Do you know what I mean?

I understand the idea.

Be human.

It's a protection, maybe, no?

It's a protection and it's an understanding of the environment you're in. You know, in football, when you reach a certain level, there are codes. And people don't understand that when I'm with my friends, when I'm at home, I make 8 mistakes in French per sentence. You see, you don't understand what I'm saying. But there are codes that you have to respect. And that's why I've always stayed like this, to make young people understand that

there are places for everything. There are places where you can be stupid, where you can talk like you think you can, and there are places where you can't. Because we represent ourselves, you know where we come from, what we represent, and you have to be perfect. We make mistakes we can't make.

So it's better to be more than perfect, even if people say, oh, what is he doing,

than to think we Look at the last example, Nicolas Pepe, did you see his thing? Yeah, I saw it. The guy speaks, he's natural, he speaks as if he were in his living room. And then it's a problem. What's going on? Cannes, home.

Of course, of course.

Yeah, because in football, there are things you can't say. People don't understand that there are so many issues, you can't be discontracted. Because the discontraction goes to the general public, but not to the people in the middle. It's good to please the general public, but it's not the general public that will ensure your career. They will support you or criticize you.

I just want to say something. Sometimes I think it's a shame, because I take my personal case, and I want to challenge you on that, for example, when we do the bridge, you see, my goal, on the one hand, is that people can see the real face of our personalities. Because, a silly thing, you see, Ashraf, for example, I don't know you, basically, today is one of the first times we see each other,

even if we saw each other on the field. And you see, it's a pleasure for me to be able to talk to you, Kylian. People can say a lot of things, or anything, Malik on social media, things like that, but when we're there, it's our real personalities we see. And I think it's a shame that people sometimes don't necessarily have access to that.

I can react to that. Sometimes I wonder if there is no over-communication, over-protection. You just said a sentence that put an end to three months of stuff on the UNFP trophies. When you say, it's just the frustration of a guy who was placed in the wrong place at the wrong time.

And maybe when people tell you, no, don't talk, let it go. Just this sentence, you take it out instantly. and there's a humanity that comes out of you, like we're all frustrated in our lives, whether it's for football, whether it's for work, and the fact of being connected with... Because sometimes we forget that you hide your emotions,

it's overprotection because it takes on a magnitude.

But then again, I think it's also protection because there's nothing that belongs to you anymore.

Yeah.

So, I speak in my case, since I was 14, there's nothing that belongs to me anymore. I belong to people. So the little things that you have left...

The Aston Martin, no, what is it? The Mini Cooper, right? The Mini Cooper, it's not...

It's not mine.

You keep it for yourself.

The little things that you have left, you keep it for yourself.

It's selfish, So it's a mix of a lot of things that make it... And it's also a truth, in the world of football, we'll talk about it again, but it's... Every mistake can be fatal for some.

You can't make mistakes.

Yeah, of course.

Even less than in some other fields. I think you have more right to make mistakes, for example, in your fields than in ours. Oh, they're still blacklisted. You keep doing shows, but you don't do them in the same place.

You break your show.

He did something very strong.

He made them blacklisted. He made the choice. When we say that we position ourselves, Malik positioned himself, he made the choice of not playing for Bolloré. Vincent Bolloré,

everyone knows him, who has a lot of money, who has the Olympia, for example, Malik, he said, I'm not going to that guy anymore. Did it cost you, Malik, to be...

To be integral.

Yeah, a little bit. It goes back to what Achraf and Kilian were saying. It's when you reach a certain age where you need to feel aligned with your values, with your principles. If you can sleep and look at yourself in the mirror,

that's the main thing. Everyone is ready to accept a position at a certain point in their life. I had to let time pass, I was 35, 36 years old, and I had to say to myself, I have to do things that make sense, that have an echo in me. And I can't go work with a group when I see certain positions, when I see the conflicts, when I see what's happening in Palestine, it affects me, so I say it. I can't shut up, it's human, it's like that. I grew up, I have posters of Mohamed Ali and Malcolm X.

I can't have only posters and not try, on a small scale, to have a billion, 0.001 billion percent. If I can try to position myself a little bit, I do.

When I hear you, what I remember is that you would like to be able to say everything, but first you have to keep a little for yourself, to protect yourself. But also, I think you must have an impeccable voice to inspire the youth. You are role models. Today, young people are often in groups, at school, in sports clubs. It's a collective, and to stand out, you have to be different. And I would like to talk about the individualities in the collective art that you all have. For example, you Malik, you started at the Jamaicomedy Club,

it must not be easy to get your hands on the game.

In fact, it all depends, I think there is a coherence also with the age at which you will start. Because when you start at 17, 18, which is my case, you have a form of carelessness where you don't worry about this kind of consideration. You are just happy to touch your dream. You're not saying to yourself, I'm an individual in the middle of a collective. You're just saying,

wait, I just did a 10-minute sketch, I'm getting paid, while the people around me usually work, go to the factory. It's crazy what's going on. So that's why,

if I had to do it again, and I had to start at 25, 30 or 35, I wouldn't have the same carelessness and I don't think I would have the same performance. So at that time, I'm totally carefree and I think that's what made me strong.

And what I would like to add, because I know Malik well, you provoked your luck. You often have to provoke luck. I mean, we played every Tuesday at the Jamel Comedy Club, it was an open scene. I remember, we all had three or four minutes, we would go through and we had to go through random Tuesdays.

And sometimes we'd go through a Tuesday and we wouldn't. We'd come, we'd come at five minutes, we'd break up. And everyone was hoping that Jamel would be there. His chair was empty, we was there, he was there, he was there.

He was there all the time.

And one day, Jamel was there, and Malik wasn't on the court. But he knew everyone. He said, the boss is here, can I play? And he played, he hit the boss in the eye, and he left. You know, like, that's true. It's important to talk about this subject because when we look at it, I think that football is a collective sport,

but it's the most individual sport. And when we look at it, we all have different profiles. Kylian, obviously, you're an attacker. So the light, by scoring goals, it comes automatically between Guil a bit more ungrateful. It's a bit more ungrateful.

And Achraf, I would like to know how you managed to find your way and to know what you had to do to continue to be a performer and to continue to be part of the elite. It's true that my position is a little different, but that's my strength. I try to change my position from being a full-back,

because I've been watching football for 10 years and I've seen modern full-backs who defend well but don't attack much. My strength is my speed, my ability to climb and to go up and down at a high speed. I try to change my position so that people see that the side is an important position in a team. When you defend like that, does Kylian defend or not? It's true that he defends me. He defends me because he's attacking. We need him to be more fresh. When we were together, I needed him to be more fresh to attack and score goals. When we pass the ball, he makes the difference.

But it's true that if he tries to defend and help us, it's easier for the defenders to get the ball back and turn the midfield. Even if they don't make the effort like we do, it's important to get the other team's defenders to the easier part of the midfield. That way, it's not easy for them to attack. It's funny that you're talking about the post-side, because I played with him.

No.

Side?

He made the same mistake. I played with him and I saw the evolution. When he was in Paris, we had three different coaches and they didn't ask him the same thing. We arrived with Pochettino and he didn't ask him to go up

because he had Leo in front of him. And when you see Leo, you're like, you don't need to go up, you just need to run. You just need to pass the ball and you stay there. He was just doing the screen, he was running so that Leo could get on his foot. But I saw the evolution with Lucio, where it was really an option, offensively. It was really that he was part of the offensive animation.

Like, in Shraft, he was really important. You know, the way he could get into the middle of the field, or even where they could immediately look for a deep shot and make a 3-man shot. So, in fact, it gives you a lot of tactical options, which makes you super flexible. You have different options, in fact, as a team. And that, I think, is an advantage. And you see in their team today, at PSG, they have an, so they can change every time. And they have so many options, that it's difficult for the opponent to know.

And even for the line-ups, to say, he's going to go up, he's not going to go up, he's going inside, he's going here. You see Ashraf, when I look at you, at your position, and that's what's a little funny, because you can play the same even talking about Kylian, it's funny because, like Ashraf said, the striker is there to score goals. That means that if the guy may defend a little less, sometimes Kylian can be on the field, you look at him,

he defends a little less after you score three goals, and you say, yeah, actually. He made the difference. I think that even in the transition of football, I think it's good to ask your players in front of you. I think that even when we talk about it, it's true that I'm someone who does less, but I look at that when I do it, it really impacts the team.

When I look at Madrid, when I do it, everyone is there. Because people don't expect it either. Yeah, no, no, it's true that it's something that I was often criticized for. And I don't mind it because it's constructive criticism. Today, the truth is that I'm a player who defends less. And sometimes it can be a problem. And I don't have a problem with that because as a player,

there are things that make the team different positively, and there are things that make the team different negatively. If all the players were perfect, I think that football would be boring. I think it's important to say that everyone must also understand their role, in the sense that, as we said, whether it's when you're a side, a midfielder or a defender, in reality, you're not going to have the same light.

And you also have to understand what the team needs. And I remember there were times when I struggled a bit with that, because in reality, everyone loves the light. You know? But in fact, you realize that...

But you're on fire right now!

Yeah, but it's different.

He's good, he's good. How is he? But in fact, the thing is, it's in the sense that...

Can we say it's his moment or not? I sent a message, it was after the Celta Vigo, we were on the phone, I said, fuck, you're our franchise player,

mark the goals, and all, man of the match.

But Aurélien, you really had a post, as you say, a bit of a fat guy, how do you assimilate that, there's frustration, how does this process go so that afterwards you come back

and you're really in the mentality. Ok. I think where I've progressed is in the ability to understand my role and understand what the team needs. As we said, there are guys who are able to do several things but the truth is that you shouldn't spread out. If you know where you're the best and you do it at a very high level, the rest, you don't really care.

And like Kylian and Ashraf said earlier, you shouldn't pay too much attention to what people say, because, depending on what people say, it can drive you to the right or to the left. If you finish a game and people say, you need to attack more, or you need to defend more,

and if it's a bit in your head, you're not the best version of yourself anymore, because you're trying to satisfy everyone. And when you're really good at what you know how to do, and you just do what you have to do at a very high level,

after the rest...

But what you say also goes through the connection you will have with the right coach. I think the coach also allows you to unlock something. It's funny because there's also that in cinema. When you look at it, a few weeks ago, Michael B. Jordan won an Oscar. He found himself with a director called Ryan Coogler. You also had Scorsese with DiCaprio or De Niro. So you always have this alchemy that will exist between a duo.

No, but as I said, I started with Pochettino, who asked me for something, and thanks to Luis Enrique, he made me open my vision of the pitch, to see how I can evolve on the pitch and see things that I can do, but before I didn't know if I was ready or not, or how to do it.

But Achraf, I have a question. Luis Enrique, because we see that PSG, it's been 15 years, we said it earlier, we suffer, we struggle. He has unlocked something in your heads, he does something psychologically.

I told him directly, he was there on the first day. He said, he went out at 3. I said, what? He went out at 3? You say that, I'm inside.

I said, I'm the cavalry.

I'm in the corridors. I'm attack and defense like that.

He said, no, Akil showed me different things, but I'm talking about myself. He showed me things that I said, oh yeah, it went well. Honestly, do you understand everything Henrique says? Sometimes he looks at you and does things like that.

No, we're used to it.

Do you understand all the signs? I think we've been with him for three years. We're used to him. And also, when you see him do things, he's a clear messenger. He doesn't give you a lot of information, he just says, you're done. He's a good coach. He really says what he thinks.

Yeah, he really says what he thinks. Unfortunately, I had my last year, and my last year was the Russian mountains. So I couldn't really enjoy it with him. I was in the loft for the first month, so I came back and I thought I have the pedamoclasts above my head, at any moment they will cut my head off so I might leave.

We had a good relationship and I decided to leave. The last 3-4 months, I didn't play in the league anymore, I was only playing for the Champions League. Half my head was here, half there. Technically, I didn't enjoy it. I enjoyed it as a football fan. I was tactically watching the outside.

Because I like football. When you like football, you watch it wherever. But in my situation, I couldn't enjoy it.

But no, it's a coach who knows the ball.

And an open question, honest, Philippe.

You're there, when you leave, the guys win. They know the ball. And an open, honest question,

you're there, when you leave, the guys win.

The truth is that they win.

It's not the same, because they're friends.

They're friends, it's a city you love, it's a city you gave yourself for, it's a city that you gave yourself... How do you live that? I think you know, if I had left earlier and they had won, I think there would have been resentment because I told myself,

I didn't make it, I made it to the end of the book, I've been doing it for 7 years, I've done everything. In fact, there was no point in continuing for me. When I make the decision to leave, it's because my book has no more pages. And when it's like that, it's because the story has to be written without you. You contributed. You know, you did semi-finals, I did two semi-finals.

We did K, we did 8-10, we did everything. At least, hey, we have to go, we have to win.

Because I don't mind that he's my friend, but sometimes when I see him doing good stuff, I say, ah, the bastard.

You know, I get up, but I say, ah yeah. Ah yeah. And when you're in a group, you know that when you win, it's not just the team that won that year. It's all the guys that won.

It's all the parameters. It's the staff. Last year, we played Dortmund. In the semifinals, we lost. We played the match 100 times. We won 480 times.

18 posts. 50. You see, this guy. You should never lose this game.

Yeah, Dortmund, it's impossible to lose. There were 7 posts, 8 posts, macha.

No, but already at the start, I remember an action, I think. I shoot on the post, he shoots on the post.

I remember, I remember.

I remember, I remember.

I remember, I remember.

I remember, I understand what he's saying. But it's true, as a friend, I know what he gave to the club, because he's the best goalkeeper in Paris history. He's done a lot of things, even he changed the club. It hurts to see, now as a Parisian, to see Kilian, who didn't win the first championship with Paris, it's the truth. As a Parisian, I really liked seeingylian next to us, even though he made it to the semi-finals, he gave everything.

It hurts that after the game... We'll do like Lacan, we'll give him afterwards.

We'll bring it back to him afterwards, Kylian.

Winning after he left, it hurts. Because sometimes I talk to him and I say, you need to stay a little longer. Even for the coach, because I know that with this coach, Kylian was much better, he won. You're right, the frustration, the high of the love we had as a Parisian supporter,

to have Kylian.

That's why when people ask me, they say to me, how do you do it? When I left, it's true that there was a lot of hatred, a lot of... I said, but there are only those who have been to the park who can understand why people are angry. When you were seven years old in the park, when I was 7 years old, Malik was there,

and you just said number 7, and the stadium was on fire. You know, I was the kid of the stadium. So when I said I was leaving, people said, but he's crazy, he's with us.

Where are you going, stay here.

Did you try to dissuade them,

you, who are big fans of PSG? You didn't send any, you didn't... Every day, every day. I went through the whole family. Aiza, Wilfried, Ethan,

I understood.

That's why people didn't understand the fact that I understand and that I don't have any particular hatred. Because in fact, I knew everything in Paris. And I liked being in Paris. When you like being in a place,

it doesn't come out naturally to have hate. Paris is good. But you see, it's deadly now, because as Paris won, there's no more of this...

Yeah.

There's no more of this resentment, so you see, it's...

No, no, there's no more.

No, but really.

Yeah, no, no, no, that's the thing, it's just that... And also, everyone knew that I was going to. So if he told me I wasn't going there, I wasn't unhappy in Paris. So I said, OK, I'll stay. But I wanted to play at Real Madrid one day. Last time in the locker room, I don't think you were there, we had a question about the easiest position in football, or the least difficult.

And there are guys in the locker room, they said right back. I said no, I don't think so. I would like to have your opinion. I say that the central defender is the best. If you want me to answer you, I am now in Paris, I am only a right back. Now, when I am not there, I am injured, and Warren played for the players, I think that when you see the selection now,

ask Warren what he thinks about being a right back.

If you ask me, I think it's the central defender.

Central defender too?

Yeah, because you're covered from all sides. You can even play as a three-man. So if you're central, in a three-man defense, in the middle one... Yeah, you can chill a little. It's really... It's the only positions where you see players whocking 40 years old. Some will send you to the butcher.

What do you think, from the outside, which position would be the easiest?

Middle.

What?

Middle?

It's never been there.

It's never been in the middle.

No, no, no.

It's never been in the middle.

Middle is very difficult.

What club?

Middle is very difficult. What environment? What environment? The environment is very difficult. When you don't necessarily know football, you think the environment is a blockade.

The environment is blocked.

The environment is blocked. It's the simplest analysis. The attackers score goals, the defenders defend the environment.

That's exactly it.

No, but that's for the general public.

The environment is a blockade.

I think the environment is maybe the top doesn't work.

No, because you can win without a goalkeeper, you can win without a defender, but without a good field environment, your team has no balance.

Who is your idol, the mentor, the legend for you in football? Malik?

Me, it's Zidane, it's Zinedine, the legend for me. I'm Marcelo, Marcelo, Brazilian.

I started with Gizou, but Cristiano afterwards.

Yeah, it's R7.

Yeah.

I think for an attacker, he showed you all the possible fields.

Because he had different versions, he knew how to do everything, and he did everything.

It was Samuel Eto'o, right? Samuel Eto'o.

Eto'o. Samuel Eto'o. Or R9 as well. Too young. Too young.

R9.

We were too young.

I really started to like R9. It was with Pochettino who showed me videos, clips. Before R9, I only saw the World Cup opening, actions at Inter that everyone saw, but I didn't really see them as a player.

It's not my generation.

And to go back to the same question I was saying, who gave you the biggest slap in training? The player you trained with, you said it was a phenomenon. It's the biggest I've seen. It doesn't matter to them, they train with Messi. After Messi, he was... It depends. Be careful, Neymar.

Neymar, Neymar, be careful Neymar.

Messi, Messi, Messi is... He's too much.

More than Neymar technically? In technique...

It's not the same thing, it's not the same thing. But actually, Messi, he does everything well. I'll tell you an anecdote. We were in Paris, we were finishing. And in Paris, me and Ney, we were at the top of the world's football. He arrived and we scored 10 goals. And me and Ney, on 10 goals, we scored 6 or 7.

You see how we do training? People say, wow, Kim Liaran and all, but you haven't seen Leo. He hit 9 times, he scored 9 times the same goal. It was the end of the training, he was a bit tired, he was just passing the ball. He wasn't shooting, just passing the ball. Once, twice, three times, four times, five times. And I was like, the guy said, you didn't get it.

He's there, you see?

You played against Liorel, right?

Yeah, World Cup final, even in Panama. Yeah, World Cup final, that's right. And you, Aurél, who was the ultimate crack you saw? Bro, the best player I've ever played with? That's what I was going to say. The best player I've ever played with is Kylian, you know. Then there are other players, you know, for example Paul, Karim too. We played with Kroos, Modric, there are guys like that.

And you, Strap? I'm still in trouble. Me too, I played with Cristiano too.

Cristiano, Messi...

But you played with me too, we were a 5.

We did a padel.

And I have a question, Aurel. Because, as you all know, on Inside, what is the Kylian that no one knows? I think you're one of the guys who laugh the most in the locker room. I don't know if people know this, but he's always laughing. You see, he's always laughing.

In three languages. He speaks all languages, you see. And it's funny, last time, there were guys who were talking, he wasn't there. And he said that they played with other superstars and everything, etc. And the thing that characterized Kilian the most was that he was super accessible.

You see? and the thing that characterized Kilian the most was that he was super accessible.

And there are a lot of guys, they're real stars, but you can't talk to them.

It's like a kid, he can joke with anyone. It's the contrast with the field and the locker room. On the field, I don't know, my role is to be a killer. I have to be cold. And when you go to watch TV, you only see the field. My role is to be cold. And when you turn on your TV, you only see the field. You know, my role is to be cold.

I have to keep the maximum coldness, because I don't know, I have an opportunity, I have to score. And I represent... You know, we were talking about light. People like light when it's good. When you lose, even if I score three times, we lose 4-3, people will say,

hey, why didn't he score five times? you score a lot, you always have this thing of even if he scores a lot, he beats all the records. It's the life of high-level players who are in the spotlight. You can't accept to take the glory because it's true that there are games where, and I agree, where my team won 2-0, I scored two goals, I didn't do anything in the game, but at the end you leave the stadium, the 80,000 people I said, no, it's mine. Whereas he did better in his role than me, he did better in his role than me. But I came, I put two filoche,

we go again, and the next day, forget it, they didn't play, I was the only one who played. So you have to accept that when you don't win, even when you did everything well, you can't take the spotlight when it's good. It's the other way around. because that's how it is. So there are no particular worries. I would like to talk about the artistic and sports career.

There are always ups and downs. Do you have a low that you want to share with us, that gave you a kind of life lesson?

Yeah, recently, I made my first film in 2021.

Oh, what a void!

We were happy to hear you talk.

You're my friend, I saw it in the script.

No, it's crazy. We'll talk about your show later.

Oh, the Skype!

No, I made this film with Benoît Majimel, François Damiens,

Jacques Mémoine.

Yeah, Josephine Japi, Jérôme Commander. It was really crazy. We went to Thailand, it was in the middle of Covid. What's crazy, and the difference with the footballers, is that a film takes two years to make. You shoot for three months, you're in post-production for six months, you're still in promotion for a month, and you play your life on one day, the day of the release.

And on Wednesday, if at 2 p.m. on Wednesday, the numbers are not good, you're given the keys again. Come on, we made a mistake, day, the difference, the footballers, and it's true, what's good is that from one weekend to the next, you're at the bottom of the hole. On Saturday, you put a double on Wednesday in the Champions League,

it's gone again. And on the next Saturday, you have a thing. No, three years, you have to wait four years to be a co-producer. That's it, it's the temporality of this job, which is quite violent.

It's a bit of a fat.

It's a bit of a fat, and a lot, then you get a lot into production, the numbers,

and you forget your passion. How does it work?

When a film comes out, you have a goal? Exactly. It's proportional to the budget of the film. The higher the budget, the higher the goal of entry. And so, afterwards, you get numbers, it's nonsense, every hour. It's been so long since I've been in Bordeaux, in Grenoble, in Marseille, now we're losing. And you start making assumptions. Tomorrow it's going to rain, it might go up,

there are holidays, it might go down. That's why it's a job where you see a lot of directors, a lot of actors who lose their footing, who fall into big depressions, or into drugs sometimes, because psychologically it's something that can quickly... It's violent, you know?

Have you ever had a little depression?

I had a moment, yes.

There are a lot of mental health players, it's something you talk about. It's important, right? It's a bit taboo. Have you ever had moments where it was really complicated and you said,

no, I have to get back on the slope because otherwise I can really be in the hole?

Yeah, me too.

At what point?

I think it was my first year in Paris. My first year in Paris was so difficult. Like Dylan said, I came from Inter, Dortmund, being on the different side player, to score goals, to play with the team, to be important in the team. Then I arrived in Paris, I knew where I was going to be, Neymar and Kain project changed. Messi didn't know he was going to come at that time. When he arrived, the team's style of play changed.

We played in different ways. I didn't take advantage of it. I didn't do the things I like to do, like attacking, being important, and all that. I felt like a little player. I remember that at that time, you see the national team too. In the national team, I was an important player in the national team.

It was mentally difficult for me to perform well in Paris. I played as I wanted to, but I was criticized. I remember that in Paris, they criticized me a lot. They said, why is Maroc playing like that? In Paris, he plays like that. He's not good, he doesn't know what he's doing.

People didn't understand.

They don't understand the gap.

And you need to adapt. You're right.

You need to adapt.

The hardest was when I missed my penalty against Switzerland.

Oh yeah? Oh yeah.

It's ok, you scored 4 in the World Cup, it's fine. No, but you understand, you know, because there was something... It was violent.

Yeah, it's true. There was something you don't understand, it's that, you know, I started to be insulted, I told myself, fuck, me, the selection was all up thought, we shouldn't put everything in the same basket. Because if they take the basket, they throw it away. It was brutal. I remember going on holiday. On my first days, I was a living dead.

I was out of breath. I got to the national team and won. I won the World Cup right away. I was a national hero. I thought, France is great! France is great! And you know, you take that in the face...

It was hard.

But the worst part was that I said I didn't want to come back.

I remember, you were already...

Yeah, I made an appointment with Noel Legrette, I'm going to see him, and I told him, I don't play anymore. Oh yeah? How come you don't play anymore? I'm 21.

Does that mean you didn't... You didn't have a bad experience with what people said, etc.

And with everything that happened around it?

No, I didn't.

Or is it more about the performance?

It was more about telling myself that... You know, you can be criticized, be good, but there's always a global feeling. And I got into something where I told myself, I play for people who, if I don't score, they'll think I'm a monkey. And then I told myself, I can't play for people like that.

That's why I got to the stadium and said, I don't want to play anymore. I told him, I don't want to play anymore. He said, I'm going back to Paris, I don't have any problems there, leave me alone. And he said, I'll remember it for the rest of my life. He was sitting like that and he said, do you think you're going to get out of the office like that and I'm going to say yes?

He said, forget it. He said, I've been here for 15 years. But I came because it cost me. I left the holidays. Because sometimes, you know, when you're a footballer, you're frustrated and all,

you go straight to the net, 3-4 players, you say, yeah, I was angry, it wasn't too... I let the holidays pass, to be a little cold,

to have a calm head.

And it didn't pass. I said to myself, I'm taking an appointment, I said, listen, I have to forget about it, because I don't want to play again. You, the footballers, the professionals, and you, Malik, when you've managed to have everything, everything done, almost everything won, how do you manage to get motivated every day,

as if you were starting your career? Emotion, when you win. You want to relive that.

That's it?

You want to relive that, leave your name, leave a legacy. And also, there are guys, I think, me for example, for my case, no matter what I've succeeded or not, I'm terrified that there's someone better than me. And that means that for me, it's not possible.

That's your motivation?

Yeah, I always tell myself, you always look, I don't know, I'm in the middle today, you look at the guys who do well and all, etc. I tell myself, no, he's strong, but I'm going to be strong too, etc. You see, I can't accept that there's someone... And that's the number one, there's no one in front of you,

that's your motivation.

But in the end, if there's never really someone, because there will always be someone who will say that there is such and such, and that's what drives me personally. I think you asked for something, What motivates you the most? To stay number one for as long as possible. Cristiano and Messi have been number one for 20 years in the professional world. Number one, number one, number two, number two, number one. You try to keep him at number one in his position.

He finishes his career, I'm at my position, he's at his position. That's the biggest motivation, as Kilian said, to stay and leave your name in the football world. There are a lot of footballers, but when you leave your name, you say to your son, what is your idol in 10 years? You go to Kilian, or Aurél, or me, so that he can look at it and see that we have done good things on the pitch.

Often the number 2 place in the Challenger is easier. Because you want to get to that level. Staying in the sport, maybe not in football, but in other sports, it's difficult to stay number 1.

Maybe a little more tiring. To go back to that, there is also the question of what your compass is. Is your compass to go and get as many trophies as possible, which is the case for athletes, I think. And in art, it's a bit different. What we were saying earlier, I think the real compass is to become a better man, to progress each time,

and to do things with which you feel good, you feel comfortable, and to be able to look at yourself in the mirror, and to convey messages, convey messages and values. And it's true that athletes...

Money, money.

Money is a value too.

It's good that you say that, because I know you, I love humor, I love watching. And I followed the evolution, and I think your job is much more difficult than before.

Yeah.

Because you can laugh less of everything.

We tried to really politicize your job in a sense where... Everything we say, we think.

We're going to control your jokes.

That's true, that's true.

The skates before, they were making jokes.

But you see everyone laughing, you make the same joke now, but you don't spend the night. No, but you have to see your parents, you ask your parents, I think they were watching that too, there were the gignols of the info. In the evening, on the way home, we put the gignols of the info. You would have certainly had your puppet.

And that's violent, it's like social networks.

Every night, it's a circle. Puppets making fun of politicians, all that. There's a program in Spain called El Hormiguero. I've never heard of it.

What's that?

It's a marionette. And today, it's more accepted. And it's also because a lot of media belong to a few people. You have 3 or 4 people who have a journal, who have a publishing line, and who dictate the publishing line that the journal or the media

should follow. And there's less freedom. And I think that freedom is lost. And so, even the freedom of tone, the freedom to create what we want to create, and there is still a free and disordered space

where we can do it, it's YouTube. It's YouTube.

You didn't feel embarrassed, did you?

Yeah.

But you don't see it, you don't live it in your environment, or you just say that it's just the sequel. Not normal, but basically you just have to adapt to your milieu and your environment.

Humor has changed.

Humor has changed.

Humor has changed.

I'm not starting, you're going to finish this reference.

Humor has changed.

Humor has changed.

You saw that he was stuck.

Thank you.

You unlocked him. Thank you for the meme.

Humor has changed. You have to adapt to the situation to unblock yourself.

You have to adapt.

Humor, or art, is also very subjective. Here or there, it's a number of goals.

Of course.

But it's still subjective.

You score three goals, bro, it's not...

Yeah, but there are people who tell you,

there are a lot of strikers who score goals, Yes, I understand, but the stats... What's the problem? Today, it's called statified. I just invented that word, but it's totally statified. I don't understand anything anymore. The XG, the XPR, the Azertyop, the B826. You say, wait, but wait.

And you, Ashraf, you have a pretty strong story. When I look at you, you're not with your dad. You have a very, very strong story. Yes, I think that in our culture, family is very important. Mom, dad. I was close to my parents since I was a kid. My dad would always call me to the training camp.

We'd spend 30 minutes together to go and 30 minutes to come back. We'd talk about everything. He wasn't my dad, he was my friend. We'd talk about things you can't talk about with your mum or dad. But the love your mum gives you when you come back from training, when she gives you a massage, it's something that stays with you. The love of my family, my brothers and my friends is very important for me to perform well, especially in the most difficult moments, when things don't go well in football and people don't see it.

For me, my mother, my father and my family are the pillars of my life. And you, who was a very young dad, what kind of dad are you now? I think a bit like my parents, to give love to my children. It's true that it's not the same lifestyle as when I was older. I didn't have the means to buy a lot of things and dress up like I do. My children are different now.

They are good.

They are good. But I know that they stay humble. That it's not easy for everyone here, that with work you manage to live this journey. I try to give all my love to my children and grow up in the best way.

And Kylian, Malik, Aurel, when are the kids?

I knew he was going to ask that.

It's not for now. Everyone answers. Malik, when are the kids coming? I knew he was going to ask that. It's not for now. Manic, where are we?

A kid who is a kid, it's going to be canceled. I can't, I'm going to lose him. Maybe one day.

Maybe one day if you want.

Kylian?

There's only God who knows. I'm asking you differently, do you want it? It's not, Not just one day, but do you want to be a father? One day, yes.

It's important. It's cool. It changes a life, Esraf.

I'm a mother, it really changes a life.

Maybe we are, we don't know.

I don't know, but I am a father.

I say that it depends on how you think. For me, my lifestyle, it doesn't change much. I'm focused, I need help, but I think you give priority to your children. And you know that there is something important in your life,

which is your family and your children.

Well, actually, when you have the Kouba we were talking about earlier, coming back to your family, to your base, to your base, me, since I've been a mom for 5 years, there's nothing more important than my daughter. And the transmission, and values, and education. To go back, the MBAPPE clan, you're very close to your family, they help you. When you're at the bottom,

does the hand that's extended come from remembering the importance?

It's funny, it always makes me laugh

when people say clan, because it's like...

And you work with your mother and your father! The royal family.

You work with your parents, we know they work with you. Like a lot of people, but...

With the famous projects.

We've never seen it like that. My parents, in fact, they just protected their child's dream which was to become a great football player. And they were just shield like any parent. It's just that their child became what I became. But the same work my parents did, you do the same with your child.

I hope he'll be even better than me.

But it's just a...

I just want her to be... No, but it's beautiful because you say that he wanted your happiness. I want my daughter's happiness. No matter what she wants to do, I'll be with her.

I think that's a dream come true. It's just that. I will always remember what my father told me when I went to Clafontaine. The first day he told me, is that what you want to do? Are you sure? And yet my father is a football patient. So he was just waiting for me to say yes, dad.

That's what I want.

But he always gave me the choice. He told me, are you sure? and we protect you to protect this dream and your company. But there are a lot of parents who don't do it. I mean, I'd like to read it, you don't work with your parents. But every parent has their own story.

My parents are around, but after...

But they don't take the management, the communication, everything that is done...

No, but my parents don't do that. My parents don't do that. Really? I want to hear you say it. For example, at first everyone thought it was my father who was in charge of everything, whereas my father never looked at any of my contracts. If my father had looked at my contracts, I would have hit some old bastards.

Old lackeys!

My father doesn't care.

Okay.

No, but he doesn't care.

So who does that? It's the lawyers.

Yeah, it's the lawyers, like everyone else. I've surrounded myself with competent people, loyal people. But my parents stayed because it's with them that I have the best advice, it's with them that I can speak freely. And so, in the end, and since they're parents, they're the ones who take the bullets for you. Today, my mother is more in the cyclone, she takes the bullets for us, but my mother never makes a decision without me telling her,

Mom, we want brought you this. » No, no, no. When she goes, it's me who says, « Mom, I want this. » And she's going to take the ball for me, like any parent.

Like any parent.

That's it, actually. And that's why it makes me laugh when we say « clan » or when we say « agent ». It's about me every day. I spend all my time saying, no, that's not true, that's true, that's not true. But in the end, it's things that, in fact, my parents, there's nothing more normal. If you see me with my parents,

they know me, they saw me when I was with my parents.

They are known now, but you don't feel like I'm with my parents. She's the one who's in charge of the foundation, right? Yes, she's the one who's in charge of everything. And that's something you've been talking about from the start, it was an idea you had from the start. Ashraf, I know you do a lot of things, and it's important to talk about it so people know. We told you, Malik, that you do nothing.

He's a big egoist.

Me, at the beginning, the foundation, as I did it when I was very young, I didn't want to pull my ear out, it was my mother's dream. My mother always loved football, but it was my passion. My mother always told me, try to do something of your own, you impact people.

When I win trophies, she's happy, but it's my career. But it was more to tell her, Mom, I know how to do something. And I told her, I want you to take care of it, because it's your idea. She did everything. I took my name, I took the contacts, I took my time, my investment,

but everything that was done was done by her and all the volunteers who did it. Of course, it's my name that carries it, because that's how it works. But it's her and them who did everything. She does everything, she travels everywhere, to Peru, Colombia, Brazil, they go to Brazil, they go everywhere, she's the one who goes. And she loves it, she's always been like that, she loves it, so she's the one who manages it.

She gives back to society thanks to you, and you do it with her.

She's always done it, even when I was younger, it's something she's always done. But today it's being mediatized, that's the difference. At first, I thought it was a mistake. She never wanted to publicize the fact that she had a foundation. She said, the foundation will never grow if people don't know you have a foundation. She just wanted to give out by giving. But I told her, if you really want to give to as many people as possible,

you have to let people know. After a while, you have to... Then we started to make it grow, we started to put it in my contracts with sponsors, with everyone. And that's how it started to grow and be what it is now.

It's very gratifying to see that, in fact, with the help we can provide, the foundation, the grant fund, whatever, everyone has grown up in a different environment, and when you can follow young people and see their evolution, and realize that you can give them opportunities to become the best version of themselves,

that's really gratifying. It's a thing to give like that, but there's not necessarily a return, or you're not necessarily going to see the evolution of the person. It's good to see a person who starts out young and who doesn't necessarily have the chance to have access to certain things. And to talk about foundations, funding and all that, etc. You see that this person, in the end, becomes, in quotation marks, successful because she received this little push.

I think the same as Kylian and Aurél, especially with children who are going through a very difficult life. Kylian said it in education, thanks to education there are children who are not his parents. They were born and left their children like that. With the Moroccan Foundation, Kemal said he would help me with the foundation in Morocco. I said thank you. I try to give the means and education to children who are not able to create something in their lives.

It's not just about being a footballer. I want them to be someone who wants to be a part of their life. We give the means to all Moroccans in Morocco. We make a better than when I was young. I didn't have the means to get to the top. Now that I am able to help many people,

it makes me very happy.

Thank you.

It's very nice, we who see this from the outside, to see that you give back. I think it's beautiful. it's a virtuous circle.

You know, there's even something that I know that sometimes during Ramadan, I happen to be alone in Paris. He sends me a text message, he says, where are you, what are you doing? And I get home, Ramadan together.

Ashraf, call me.

No, but it's...

Call me, Ashraf.

Come, come. I don't have Ramadan, but I started it. I'm starting tomorrow. Yes, as you wish. I like to share moments with people. That's the thing about Ramadan. To share moments, but it's important for our culture. To share moments. Even Kilian doesn't do Ramadan, but when he was in Paris, now when he came...

You know, 30 days ago.

It's crazy.

At first I said, you know I'm going to Ramadan?

He said, come anyway. He's normally a good guy. Even now that he's in Paris, he came to cut the Eftos with us, with my family, with my friends.

I came with the mini-cutter.

That's true.

It makes me happy to share this moment with people who are not Muslims. To see how we make this important month for us, and we share it, and and show how we take advantage of this moment. It's nice for me too. And you, Aurel, what is your association? My association is called Prosperi. It's not an association, it's a funding fund.

But as I said, it's about giving opportunities to people in vulnerable situations. So, a bit like we said, it's not just data, but it's about being able to follow these people and allow them to have a better future, and to be able to access certain things that they didn't have the opportunity to before. And yes, as I said, it's really rewarding to see people's evolution and to realize that through education, through sport, but also health,

you can help them have a better life.

So they have foundations, we all do it in relation to our level. And you denounce the effects of society to try to change the trends and change the mentalities. So you also do something, you two with your sketches. You made a sketch, it was called Stop Everything.

Stop That? I do sketches, but Malik and I, we get along well, we're a little crazy, I think.

I mean, there are limits, and we say to ourselves, why not?

We play with it.

Yeah, test, test.

And we go, and as you said, sometimes we know we're going to get hit, but we know it's necessary to do it, it's necessary to push the limits, Because humour requires a certain level of intelligence. And I think people... I don't know, you're stopping me. There's a slight leveling off.

Yes, but it's the era.

If you follow humour, you'll see the evolution. It becomes really stupid.

But you know, beyond humour, it's the era that wants that. There's a film called Idiocracy, you can watch it. Or The Truman Show. They're films where you realize that there is a general narrowing and a leveling down. We have to try to evolve at our level, to pass on messages. It's not easy, but it's a fever. Today, with social media, you have to be careful about how you speak,

in which media. I think that if you are here today in The Bridge, it's because you are confident and you know that there is no betrayal. So when you speak, you have to know in which media, how, you have to master everything, how it's going to be used. So sometimes, I imagine that for an interview, you're gathered 17 people around a table.

He's only doing it for Aurélien.

Yeah, only for Aurélien.

I'm going to be very quick.

It's like you said, if the slightest thing you say is taken up and amplified afterwards, and it's amplified, and in the end, you protect yourself and you don't do anything. It's the fact that you don't speak, you footballers, is it because of you or is it because everyone doesn't speak? Or is it because of your temperament?

There are guys who speak, right?

Yeah, there are people who like to speak.

For example, Achraf, we have the impression that you don't speak much.

I don't speak. Even in French, it's not good. No, no. I don't like to talk. Like I said before, I don't like to talk because when you talk about something, sometimes they change what you say. Of course, that's what we said. Why do you want to talk? What's the point in talking in the end?

You change things. I don't know if you're aware, but this new generation of footballers, you've broken everything. The old footballers, there was a side... The cliché footballers, it's a bit of a cliché, they run behind a ball, and it makes them speak French.

And lots of clichés.

But it changes a bit. It's crazy, because when Kylian arrived, I remember, at 16, we heard about him, we said, the minister of Cameroon. Everyone said, but what a good speaker this kid is.

People were shocked with a child. It's natural. No, I didn't do any training. You just speak well, he was shocked. When I was little, my mother always took me... You know, my mother played handball when she was little. So I was always with her team, so I was always surrounded by adults. My father also took me to the field, my brother took me... So I was always surrounded by adults. So, hey, to talk, you have to talk.

I think my speech came like that. I was always surrounded by adults. They didn't treat me like a kid. You want to be with the big guys, not like a big guy. You see, that's it. And it helped me every time. And this temperament, I'm not afraid to speak in front of people. Because sometimes I've met players who know how to speak,

but they have such a shyness that when they arrive, it's not easy. You're live, in front of people, with 150 journalists, you have to speak. I've spoken in front of 80,000 people. It's not easy. I remember my presentation with 85,000 people. They said, speak in a language that's not your language.

It was crazy.

I said, I'm going. The president said, speak Spanish, you speak well. But he was prepared to say, I'm not speaking. I Spanish, you speak well. But I saw that in his question, he was prepared to say, no I don't speak, I said, I speak.

Ah, you could speak French too?

Yeah, they had prepared the fact that I speak French. I said, I'm going,

at worst I'm wrong or what, you're kidding. But I don't know what's the hardest thing between, for example, what you did, They have to talk for an hour. It's hard. You have a problem. They don't just have to be in front of people.

They have to make them laugh. It's very hard.

And that's super difficult.

They have to react quickly. For example,

it's not stupid.

They worked on a text. They say to themselves, this joke is going to work. But it's another joke that works, this one doesn't work. It depends on the room where you perform. There's nothing like that. You make jokes, and people look at you and say, continue, continue.

No, your brain has to go fast.

Yeah, it's like you, it's by working, working, writing,

you're running the show. I think that to get to the best performance, like you, we really appreciated having you on this set. We have to question for The Bridge, because we want to change the mentality and inspire young people. We would like you to share your life lesson,

the lesson that has left the biggest impression on you in your personal and professional career. A life lesson that you would like to share with us and for all those who are watching us. I think that when you are not good, you don't get advice,

you don't get to enjoy what you do, you don't get to fight for your dream, and to do what you want, and not to listen to people who tell you that you're not capable of doing that. I remember at school they would say to me, why do you go to school if you don't see yourself becoming a footballer? Today I managed to make my dream come true. It's thanks to my parents that they supported me in this difficult time. They told me, don't worry, go to school if it's your dream.

Go to this tournament, make your dream come true and enjoy it. I think that's the advice my parents gave me.

To pursue your dream.

Yes.

Kilian, what about you? To really live in the moment. To try to be as positive as possible. Because I think we have arrived in a generation, in a moment where we always want to see what we did wrong, what we could have done, but we never look at what we do. And I think that's something that's valid for all professions. No matter what profession, in life, not always to humble yourself,

by saying to yourself, I can't do this, I can't do this, I can't do that.

Yeah, you can do anything.

You can change your trajectory.

No, that's clear. And not always see the negative, whether it's with people, with situations. That's how I learned. It's a life lesson I learned with notoriety, with experience, that in fact,

even if someone does something bad to you, it doesn't mean he's bad. That's how it is. Even if someone does something bad to you, it doesn't mean that he's bad. It's like that. You said it at the beginning of the show. Because it's things that I've learned over time. Because I'm someone who's very resentful.

And it's not good. It's not something that's good. That's why I always try to tell people, to always see the positive in people, in things, in situations. Because the wheel will turn, you won't always be in the dark, at some point you'll see the light, you see? And so I think it's always this mentality of keeping,

because it makes you a more solar person, and solar people are what we need, actually.

Yes, thank you.

It's very fair. No, I would say, do what you want to do. Sometimes we are formatted, it's easy to say, but we get into a kind of train that frustrates us. And you know, I had a Spanish teacher who advised me to go to Paris, because I come from the South, who told me, go to Paris, try your luck, you're funny, in class you make people laugh.

And I have a frustration, I've always wanted to be a flamenco teacher. And I never dared to be a flamenco teacher. I swear. I swear, she told me... You were deep and you lost us. I swear, I wanted to be a flamenco teacher and now I'm a Spanish teacher.

Do you know how to dance flamenco?

No, I'm not the one who wants to be a flamenco teacher. No, you're crazy. No, it's my teacher. My teacher told me she wanted to be a flamenco teacher and I'm a Spanish teacher and I regret it. Ah, ok, ok. I thought they were crazy. Comedian one day, comedian always. We thought it was funny. Do what you want to do, don't listen to the crowd. As good rappers would say,

never in fashion, always in the right direction. Even if you are alone, believe in something, do it. Don't let yourself be dominated by the crowd and the fashion effect. Go for it.

I had my principal teacher who told me,

you'll never. Chapelier. Mrs. Chapelier, dear.

Come on, dear. I'm not in it, me.

I like you, Mrs. Chapelier.

And by the way, big dedication to the teacher's corps, because I, in particular, it's a teacher who made me want to go to Paris, who unlocked the thing for me. So thank you also to all the teachers who struggle and who get up in the morning,

who make sure that the students receive a great education and live their passion.

In any case, I think we can finish on these beautiful words. Thank you all for coming. I know you all have busy schedules I know you all have busy schedules and you took the time to come and share this moment with us.