Before all of this, our heartfelt condolences are quite heavy.You are the brother of the victim, Maria Cristina.They were both found dead.Where was that?
In San Pablo.In Matriah Village, Remedios, Wawa, San Pablo, Laguna.
Did you see a gunshot wound?Yes, I saw a gunshot wound.Both of them were killed?Yes, both of them were killed.Did you see anything?No CCTV in the area?
That's what we want.That's why we're here.We don't know where the three CCTVs are.
Where did you find their bodies?
My brother was in a truck.He was stabbed with a steel rod.The child.
Our police have been doing an investigation.Did you talk to our police?
Yes.
Do they have...There, we have pictures.They're showing it on the screen.So it's like in a vacant lot?
Yes.
Okay, and the abandoned car?It's already broken.Yes.They have a person of interest.They call it a minor child in custody.with the law No.
There are no parents or guardians?
There are, but we don't know where they are at that time.
Sir Rowen.Yes, sir.Now, there is a person of interest, but if you call it a child in conflict with the law, because this is a minority, 14 years old, sir.Do you know this child?
Yes, yes, sir.
Okay.And the child, did you already interview him?For you, what is your reaction when the police told you that we have a person of interest, a 14 -year -old child who used to hang out at your house.What is your reaction to that sir?
He was surprised and angry sir.I knew that he was going to kill my son.
that he's a person of interest because you should be asking why he became a person of interest.
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Get started freeBecause he admitted what he did as a criminal, sir.
Okay.So if there's a confession, it's over.But did you mention to the police why he did that after he confessed?What persuaded him to do that?
What he said to the police, he said,was being bullied and he was being accused of stealing.That's why he was able to do that.
Okay.That's the reason he gave to our police.All right.But did you talk to this child?
I haven't talked to him since what happened.Okay.
Please tell us if it's okay, if you can remember.Does he often visit your house?Yes.When he visits, what does he do there?
I have a pool.There are a lot of kids playing there.
Okay.So he visits to play in the pool.Yes sir.Is he alone or does he have companions?
There are a lot of companions.When he visits, they all go to the house at the same time.
Do they also eat there?Do they stay there for a long time?
Sometimes, sir.I also have a parisan, sir.When the parisan is sold out, they go home.If there's leftover rice and soup, they get it and eat it.
So this child is very kind to them.
And my wife, sir, who they killed, she's the kindest to them.When it's afternoon, they will go home.My wife told me to go home and take a bath.If I don't take a bath, I won't come back here.
Okay.When you come back, you already took a bath.They give you food from Parizan.If there are people living there, they won't sell all the food.Yes sir.Okay.
You said to our police, to the investigators, you did that because you're being bullied.Why did you say that?
I don't know why he said that, sir.If he's always being bullied, if there's a problem, I hope he won't go to us.If I'm a bad person to him, I don't know.I also buy yogurt.Sometimes, I deliver it.Sometimes, I ask them to help me carry it.
Sometimes, they don't know who will help them.When they help me, I also give them some money for food.
Oh, okay.So you have connections here with the child and his companions.But when it comes to helping with the work, such as carrying and in exchange, when he helps with the work, there is an exchange of payment.
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But you didn't scold him?No sir.You didn't beat him or anything like that?
No sir.They have a lot of childhood friends.We cannot prove that.Almost all the kids there know me because I'm close to the kids.We can prove that if we ask the kids.We can prove who I am to them.
How many hours do they stay at your house?
It's long sir.Sometimes, we don't have two entrances.Sometimes, it's until noon, 12 or 11 at night.Sometimes, those young people, my wife doesn't let them go home.They let them sleep inside the house.If they know that they have no one to go home with, my wife doesn't let them go home.
I ask her to help me.
Do you have parents to monitor these children?If they haven't gone home for a long time or it's already midnight, do you follow them and look for them?
Their parents really follow them.If it's midnight or midnight, their parents go back and forth to follow them.I ask them to go home.I tell them to follow them.But it seems like they have a schedule to follow.They go home at that time.
Okay.
A couple of questions, sir.
Ambo is asking them to go to the basketball court.I told my wife that I will go with Regna to the basketball court.I hope that's the plan.We will go together.My problem is that my nephew is sleeping there.My wife left him and my nephew is sleeping there.
Okay.Do these kids have a history of being drunk, playing rugby or doing drugs?
I don't have any, sir.All I know is that these kids have a history of having their hands twisted.
Twisted hands, meaning they were robbed?Good afternoon sir Patrolman.The good news is this child admitted to the crime when you investigated, is that right?Yes sir.Our CICL has an admission.Okay.
Once again, it would be better if it comes from you.What was the reason given by the child?Why did he do that?
Upon interview with our CICL, the main reason is that he was told by the wife of our victim that her hand was twisted.He's always being pointed at.That's where it all started, sir.
He's always being pointed at with his back of the hand, meaning he's a magnanimous man.Yes, sir.Okay.And that's the only reason why you made this very shameful agreement?Yes, sir.
Based on our CICL, based on his statement and admission, that's what he said.We asked him if that's really the reason.He said he has no other reason.
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Get started freeOkay.Col. Villarete sir, the child told us why he committed the crime and I asked earlier if there's anything missing in the possession of the victim, in the body of the victim, such as alarm, cell phone, money, when the bodies were found.
disarranged items.Aside from what we saw, we asked the family, the father, nothing was lost.
How did it happen?The victims in your investigation, were they really taken to Bacanteng Lote and Sinigsig under the truck or were they taken to other places?
Actually sir, during the investigation, when we asked during questioning,our rescued CICL, they said they found him in front of their house in Bakuran, where they cook.the victim.When the crime happened, when the crime was consummated, he was attacked in a vacant lot where there's an abandoned truck.He was attacked there and the victim's child was on the other side.So he was brought there in separate ways.
Okay.Why did he hit the child?
According to our interview with him, he admitted it.We told our ICICL that when the child heard and saw the mother being hit, the child was crying and the child was noisy.That's when it triggered in his mind and in himself that the child should be silenced.So the victim hit the child.
Okay.Is he alone?Did he say that someone helped him?Maybe he has a companion, lookout or anything like that?
Sir, based on our investigation, the child admitted that he was the only one.He used the hammer that he got from the house in front of the house.
So where did the hammer and knife come from?
It was in the kitchen of the victim.Their house has a lot of things in front of it.Maybe that's where the CICL saw the weapon to use in the crime.
Okay.What is the status of the CICL, child in conflict with the law?What will happen to her?I know that she's in the custody of the DSWD.
During the course of action in our police force, we immediately made a decision.appropriate actions to protect the victim and the victim's family.We turned it over to our CSWD here in San Pablo.The CSWD, together with the barangay, the CICL and our investigators, WACI PD and our general investigation, we brought them and took them to the shelter here in San Pablo City.
I'm just worried because we had a hearing about the CICC, CSWD or DSWD shelters, where the children are free to roam freely and others can escape.Sometimes they even drink.Sometimes the women's and men's shelters are next to each other.Sometimes they meet each other at night, etc.That's what I'm afraid of.Of course, you as the police and you who endorsed the TSWD, did you do any monitoring to ensure that the child is really safe?
will not be allowed to escape from the facility of CSWD or DSWD?
We have one sir.As our police, we have five of them, especially our CICL.We have our patrollers go there.Then when this happened, we asked them to monitor our turnover of CICL so we can see the interventions of shelters and CSWD and we can monitor if they will escape or not.We will monitor it.If possible, we will go to the police every day, morning and afternoon to update the youth, especially the CICL that committed a crime.
You heard the talks with the police, the PNP's whistleblowers about the case.What is your reaction?
My reaction is that the brother who was detained is with them.
What is the name of the accomplice?
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Get started freeThe accomplice is the brother of the victim.
Okay, the CICL has a brother?
The victim has a brother.
Ah, he has a brother who committed the crime?
Yes.
Two?
Yes.We didn't show the CCTV footage to my brother and to us.
The police don't want to show it?
No, they don't.We wanted to know who those kids are and how old they are.They only teach one thing.
Very good point.Canel, this suspect, Ambo, has a CCTV of the time of the incident, the crime.You don't want to show the CCTV to the family of the victims.
Sir, the CCTV is like this.There's a CCTV in the other house, sir.It's like a compound.So in the course of action, sir, we made a way to locate the owner of the house.We got it, sir.We looked at the CCTV, sir.
We reviewed it, sir.From the time we got it, sir, it so happens, sir, it's not clear and we didn't see anything, sir.Then, the house that has control of the CCTV is abroad.we got it from the brother.The brother of the house is cooperative.We got the full details of the CCTV.
When we first looked at it, they showed it to us, but we didn't see any footage.What we're waiting for, full authorization from abroad because we are coordinating with our brother here in San Pablo to give us the full footage of the CCTV.That's what they're telling us but we're not showing it.There's no truth to it because our course of action is to show everyone what they can see, if there's a partner or not, so we can prove Is he really alone or is he with someone else?
Colonel, how do you explain this new information?
Now, Ms. Roebelin is telling us that one of the children there, who is supposed to be the brother of the suspect, bloodied the T -shirt and removed the T -shirt, according to the investigator, and was asked why the T -shirt was bloodied.And what was the answer?
He said he removed it because it was bloodied.blood was stained by the victim's child.
Sir, the T -shirt that was blue, it was also on us and we also submitted it to the SOCO, sir.We didn't let them know.So the SOCO, sir, will prove if the blood was really on the T -shirt that was washed.Because, sir, I myself saw that the T -shirt was stained with blood.
Patrolman Del Garcia, is it true that the brother of the suspect, whose name is Ambo, asked you why your T -shirt is bloody?He told you that this was taken off and this was wiped on the victim's blood.Yes, sir.Okay.So if yes, Why didn't you include the brother of the suspect as another suspect?
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Get started freeSir, his revelation is that he admitted that he raped and raped her after committing a crime, sir, when the 18 -year -old girl was being rescued.
So he admitted that...
He supported the statement of the wife and father of the victim, who was with him in the basketball court, during the crime.
Okay.Sir Rowen, what will happen to the crime?You're the one who's testifying.
I'm the one who's telling the truth, sir.
So Ambo has nothing to do with the crime?
He has something to do with it, sir.
He has something to do with it?
Yes sir.My husband is strong.He did something.He helped.But he's saying at that time there was a crime.When he said there was a crime.
He helped me to clean.He helped me to clean.My son's body and my husband's body were confiscated.He has a participation.My husband is strong.When my husband died,
The commission of crime, for you, it's not included.But it's included in the cleaning of crimes.
The device penal code defines accessory as somebody who helps perpetrate the crime by hiding the evidence.or the body of the crime.If the crime was committed before they hit 15 years old, Senator.Before they hit 15 years old and they committed the crime, they are totally exempt from criminal liability.So that is the painful fact of our juvenile justice law.They admitted it, but we can't do anything if they are not subject to intervention proceedings.
intervention.So hanggang kailan sila dyan sa pasilidad ng DSWD na binibibi -baby?
Unfortunately, it will be up to the DSWD to decide kung sila ay graduate na, kung sila ay reformed na daw.It will be up to the assessment of the DSWD, Senator.
But just the same, patrolman Christian Del Garcia, you heard the lawyer, attorney Gary Tungol.Bring in Ambo.We're also conducting further investigation regarding this.sir.Sir, yes, go ahead.Conduct an investigation.
But in the beginning, he admitted that he used the T -shirt, the suit to wipe the victim's blood.What is his purpose?
Yes sir, what he said when he confessed, he was with the father of the victim.
No sir, when the crime happened, it's clear that there was no involvement of the actual commission of the crime.However, when it comes to the movement of the victim, the evidence, the body, such as the bloodstain, the victim, etc. etc. etc.He was there and he did it and he admitted it.So why did he not put his name as an accessory to the crime?
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Get started freeSir, his confession is based on their statement, sir.His confession, sir, the bloodstain he said, was when the victim was running to the hospital.Why was he there while the victim was running?Sir, they were together when he was running.the victim's father from the basketball court.
Sir Rowen, you said you were with Ambo, right?Yes, sir.And when you went to the crime scene, you were also with Ambo?Yes, sir.Okay.So now, when the bodies were being carried, the child of Ambo was also carried?
No.He was not carried.I was the only one who carried him.When I saw my son, he was on my side.
Sir how can that happen?How can he do that?if he was with you all the way?You said from the start, from the game until you ran to the crime scene, he was still with you.How did you reconcile that?
When I first got home, I met Ambo at home.Now, when my son and I moved in, Ambo was left at that house.
He was left.
Yes.I was surprised when I saw my son in the video.He was behind me. I didn't know why he was behind me.
Patrolman, just do your investigation.It's hard for you.You're discounting the siambo.What is this siambo?Investigate this siambo.It's a possibility.
The victims' relatives said that it's possible that they're with them.That's why they came here.And you're really forcing them to have nothing to do with it.What are you?You're discounting them right away.Yes sir.
That's why the victims' relatives came here because of this.They're saying that Ambo has something to do with it because he took off his T -shirt.And now you're saying that he's naked.You're covering him up.Why are you covering him up?No sir.
No sir.We know that he won't be able to go to a real prison if not through DSWD.But at least he will be able to go there and he will try to get a reform.He will be able to rehabilitate, etc.
They swore that it's their job to defend themselves.Why is it like that?
I'm He's being taught a lesson.
Senator Garrett.What I saw here, Senator, he didn't see the intention.There's no logical reason for Ambo to wipe the blood.Maybe he tried to hide some pieces of evidence that he can to defend his brother.Maybe that's the appreciation of our patrolman.But it seems different.
That's why it's frustrating, understandably.
That's why.Because his brother, of course, made a way for Ambo to help.They didn't help to carry him to the hospital.But for that, the brother of the suspect will help to carry the body.But Roman bought that kind of palusot.Yes.
Ang tawag po natin legally diyan, it is contrary to ordinary experience po, Senator, na yung kapatid mo nakapatay, ang tinulungan niyo, yung bitnima.Most likely, kaya po siya gusto sumama papunta ng hospital is may opportunity to cover up some pieces of evidence na maaaring mag -ipit doon sa kanyang kapatid na child murderer.
Colonel Tafalya, Sir, ang gusto ko sanang mangyari, request ko po sa inyo, Patrolman Dale Garcia should not conduct an investigation for the possible involvement of the brother of the suspect who is now holding the DSWD.Investigate the younger brother, 13 years old, to see his possible involvement.Patrolman does not want to do that.He's insisting that the brother has nothing to do with it.brother of the suspect has nothing to do with it.Sir can we open up the investigation again and Patrolman Garcia should not be the one to investigate.
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Get started freeOkay sir.Let's end this.We will invite another investigator if necessary sir.
I want this to happen sir because his mother hid Patrick.I hid him inside the house, inside the cabinet where I found him.I also want my mother to be charged.
Your mother hid the...She hid it under the house.Under the suspect, the primary suspect?
Yes, she hid it under the comparador.My mother didn't teach her.It's the first time I've seen her.
Okay.Atty.Garret.Yes, sir.
Your mother hid it under the comparador?The comparador, her son.
The comparador, her son.She knows he's involved in a crime.Yes.Senator, the hiding and escaping of suspects in a crime, especially during an investigation by the police, will be considered as obstruction of justice.So it's possible that he has an intention to hide his son in an investigation.
There.Colonel Tafalya, sir.I heard that, Senator.Please include the mother of the suspect.
We will see if he really hid it or for what reason.We will look into it.
If it can be proven that he hid it from the operator, his son, who he knows is running away from the police's pursuit to investigate the crime, he hid it from the operator.That's what the attorney general is saying, obstruction of justice.
Bawal Talaga.As long as there's a search warrant, especially if there's an incident or warrant, it's really prohibited.
Thank you very much, Colonel.We will come back to you for a follow -up on the possibility that Ambo will be involved in the investigation and will be the mother of the suspect so you can look at the angle where he can be charged.We will update you from time to time.We will give you the telephone number of Col. Tafalya.
So ngayon po, magbibigay po muna kami ng paunang tulong po natin dahil na -mention nyo po sa aming researcher na ang punerarya po may balance pa po na P44 ,000 kung tama po.
Yes po, P44 ,000 plus po.
So ito po, paunang tulong po ni Senator Rafi, P50 ,000 po ito.And then ito po yung pamasahe po natin, pauwi po ng keson, P6 ,000.
P50 ,000 po.Sir Raffy Tulfo, thank you very much to all the staff who helped us to give us justice.Thank you very much.
Sir Raffy, our journey here is just for justice, but you still gave us financial help.Thank you very much for your program.
Thank you.And that's our schedule for tomorrow or for the next day.Staff, Senator Laffey's reporter will continue.there.And of course, so that we can also visit, so that the family of Ma 'am Cristina's family can be safe.Thank you and have a good afternoon.
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